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Did Disco Foreshadow Mainstream 80’s Music?

I watched a recent episode of Professor of Rock about Rick Astley and his biggest hit, Never Going To Give You Up. One commenter on that episode said that, to them, this song is a disco song. And that got me thinking: did disco foreshadow mainstream pop and New Wave of the 1980’s? Did disco actually die, or did it simply evolve like other music genres? It’s an idea worth exploring.

The Rise of Disco

Disco evolved from mainstream pop music in the 1970’s. The songs generally featured an increased use of horns and strings, as well as synths. The objective for most songs was for them to be danceable. In some cases, songs came with a new dance. The Hustle by Van McCoy was one popular example of it. Disco essentially went mainstream when the movie Saturday Night Fever came out in 1977, and with it one of the best selling soundtracks and albums of all time. It put disco firmly in the middle of western culture.

There was, of course, a host of other music genre followers that hated, even reviled, disco. I have to admit at the time that I was one, although to a limited degree. The music was catchy, it was usually upbeat and uptempo, and it wasn’t filled with “messages” or “lessons”. The songs were about dancing, partying, and just generally having fun. But the use of orchestral instruments and synths, coupled with a degree of over-production, put off listeners of rock and country. It spawned fashion styles that some derided, even viciously mocked.

Disco Replaced by 1980’s Pop, Rock, and New Wave

As the 1970’s rolled into its final years, bands began to release albums mocking disco. ELO’s 1979 album Discovery was meant as a bit of a response (with the name including “disco”), as one example. By this time, disco was now mainstream, and was getting a bit “worn” and “tired” for some listeners.

While some claim that Rick Dee’s 1976 novelty song, Disco Duck, was when disco jumped the shark, the music form would continue for years beyond it. There were disco, and disco-like, songs released right up until 1982. Many of the core aesthetics of disco would carry on into 1980’s New Wave and pop, using similar production philosophies, and featuring synths and, at times, orchestral instruments.

All Music Is An Evolutionary Form

All music styles are an evolution of some older style. At it’s core, all modern music calls the blues as it’s core foundation. Blues gave rise to jazz and folk music. Those were remixed back with the blues, and each other, to spawn Big Band, country (first called race music, then hillbilly music, followed by country & western), pop, and rock ‘n roll (later just rock). While new genres can have a distinct sound and feel, ultimately, you find a lot with the basic 12-bar blues structure somewhere at its core.

In the same way that gospel and folk (evolutionary descendants of blues) foreshadowed country, disco could be seen as the natural ancestor of mainstream 1980’s music. Again, they share some similar sounds and a similar feel. The difference can be more use of political or social messages, or exploring deeper topics around breakup, loss, or failure. Not all New Wave songs were uptempo, cheerful dance numbers.

Even 80’s Music Would Decline

In the same way that disco gave way to mainstream 80’s music, other forms would supplant the 80’s. The new forms didn’t, of course, conveniently start in 1990. By 1988 and 1989, you could already see a shift. Rap was becoming more prominent. The early sounds that would become garage rock and grunge could be heard. The music of the late 1980’s was different from the early and mid-1980’s. You could feel a shift in 1987 and 1988. The same happened in the late 1970’s, where some songs that sound quintessentially 80’s came out in 1978 and 1979. Genesis’s “Follow You Follow Me” (1978) and “Misunderstanding” (1979), as well as some of Pat Benetar’s first hits are from the period.

So, was disco foreshadowing mainstream music of the 1980’s? Did a form sometimes thought of as a niche (you’d never know it listening to the radio in the late 1970’s) presage what was coming? Based on a cursory look, that would seem to be the case. Performers and songwriters may have been influenced, even if only indirectly, by the sound that was prevalent on the airwaves, in movies and television, and in school dances. The fingerprints of disco can be seen all over many, many hits of the 1980’s.

 

Why I Left Spotify

the spotify logo

I have decided to leave Spotify after trying it for the last 8 months or so. Why? It wasn’t because of total dissatisfaction. Instead, a handful of irritants began to wear on me while using it.

What It Does Right

Before going into what I don’t like about Spotify, I do want to do go over two things that it does well. The first is volume levelling. This is something that is a bit annoying with Apple Music and their various apps (and no, “sound check” doesn’t work all that well). Spotify does a commendable job of ensuring that all songs in a playlist have similar volume levels.

I’ve only ever used it for playlists, so I can’t comment on how it might work or not work with an album. I know Apple’s “sound check” will mess up some albums, so I largely leave it off as a result. I’m still very much an album listener, not just a playlist shuffler.

The other thing I rather like is cross-device shuffle synchronization (at least when it works). It is nice that I can stop music on my desktop or an iPad, fire it up on my phone in the car, and take up where I left off. Mostly. The phone app doesn’t always get updated unless you remember to open it while still connected to wifi and before you get in the car.

The First Irritation: Bad Playlist Shuffling

My first, and probably biggest, complaint is with how it builds the playback order for shuffling. Frankly, it does an abysmal job of digging into the entire playlist. Instead, it seems to be biased toward playing the songs that are played most frequently.

But that means it seems to be working against itself: it assumes a song is preferred because it got played a lot. But it was the one deciding to play it. I’m convinced that if I shuffled one playlist long enough I’d end up hearing the same song over and over again (“oh, Geoff like this because he’s listened to it a lot, so I’ll play it again!”).

The supposed “random order” is also fixed for some period of time. This appears to hold even if I restart the app, but not always. I have some smaller playlists where, after the app reached the end, it played everything again in the exact same order. It isn’t clear what it takes to get it to rebuild the shuffle order with any certainty.

That’s not how I expect shuffle to work. I’m expecting that, once it’s played everything, it will build a new order and start to play that. It’s what I’ve experienced with the Music app on my Apple devices. And if I restart the app on a device, the next time I try that playlist, the shuffle order is different again.

The Second Irritation: When Sync Doesn’t Work

The Apple apps don’t seem to try to synchronize shuffling playlists across devices. The “bad”, if you will, is that you can’t take up where you left off on another device. But the “good” is that each device has its own playback order, so you aren’t re-listening to the same sequence of songs.

Spotify playback synchronization works, but only if all instances of the app are active and connected. This can be a problem on iOS and iPadOS, because not all apps get to work in the background, or work at all times in the background.

This leaves me, often, having to re-listen to the same sequence of songs in the car that I just listened to for however long in the office. I’d rather it not do that.

The Third Irritation: The Disappearing Content

Because there’s no option to buy content in Spotify, availability is at the mercy of whatever licence agreement Spotify has with the music distributor. It isn’t a widespread problem, but I have discovered songs on playlists that I could play previously grayed-out because they aren’t available in Canada anymore. On Apple Music, for anything I’ve bought off the store, I still have it, even if it disappears from sale on the store later.

Okay, I get it, they don’t get a licence with no time limit. But if I had a way to buy the song, and get my own irrevocable, perpetual, non-transferrable licence, that could be avoided. But there’s no way to do that as far as I know.

The Fourth Irritation: No Sync of Downloaded Content

If I add audio files to Spotify on one device, they are available on that device and nowhere else. If I do the same with Apple Music, as long as the file is under 5GB in size, it will sync to all my other devices.

So, if I rip a CD (because there’s no digital copy of the music) and add it to my Apple Music library, it’s on all my devices. If I do that on Spotify, they only appear on the device where I added them. It’s annoying.

It Was Interesting, But I’m Done

I’m glad I gave Spotify a shot, because it wasn’t all bad. And if I had to use it because I’ve moved away from the Apple universe, then I could live with it. But while I have something that works better for me, I’m sticking with that.

I am not saying people should avoid Spotify. How I use it, what I expect, will be different that what others do. For some, Spotify is a far superior service compared to Apple Music. But it isn’t working for me in a way that I would like.

So You Want To Make Content?

Watching a Youtube video by Mary Spender got me thinking about content creation. In it, she discusses her thoughts on the future of her channel, asking her audience for some feedback and guidance. One thing she said really caught my attention, and I think it’s a very important point when it comes to making any kind of content. I was going to leave a comment, but since I do tend to ramble on, I thought it best to post something here instead and leave a link to it. Maybe it will be of value, maybe not.

No Change In My Plans

Okay, yes, I’ve been lax in putting up regular content. And, no, I have no plans to create videos or podcasts. I have toyed with the idea of a podcast, but I’m not sure I can commit to the time it takes to post one regularly enough, let alone be one that is interesting. I have no interest in doing one just to hear the sound of my own voice.

There is no change in my plans because, at the moment, I don’t really have a “plan” in the formal sense. I have some ideas of what I want to do, but that’s about it.

Be Actually Authentic

One point Mary made was that she was only going to make videos on topics that interested her. She wants her content to remain truly authentic. She had no interest in trying to create something viral or in chasing trends. To me, this is the core, central, fundamental, underlying principle for anyone creating anything in this space. If the creator of content isn’t actually into the content, or doesn’t feel some passion or connection to it, that will come through. Their work will appear to be inauthentic. It will be clear it is trying to pander to some short term trend or gimmick, and not contain something that they actually believe in. It will be shallow, hollow, a facade without substance.

I have watched videos from some content creators where it was clear they were only doing it for the money and the views. It became readily apparent in a few cases. A lot of their content was repetitive. It was shallow or vapid, and it was clearly there to either get you to watch or to generate a reaction (not a real conversation). After a handful of videos, I gave up. I believe I have at least one that I’ve told Youtube to stop recommending entirely.

Of Course, Revenue Can Be Important

For anyone trying to make a living off of their video or audio content, obviously creating something people want to watch (or even pay for) is important. If you hope to pay the bills, you obviously need to make something that’s marketable. But that content has to be more than an obvious attempt at a money grab, at least if you want an audience that sticks around for the long haul. Certainly, you can make something that is shocking or outrageous, or is aimed at gaming SEO systems. That might make you some money in the short term. But it can mean that, after you’ve ceased to be “the new hotness”, the audience moves on to the next thing.

Certainly, there are creators who are simply looking to hook into the “next big thing”, and milk it for as much as they can for as long as they can. Copycats are everywhere, in every arena, and in every genre. Streaming services will be flooded with certain styles or genres as soon as one or two become hot commodities. The same goes for games, fashion, and Youtube content. If that works for you, fine. But unless you can stumble upon the next hot trend, it may be a one-and-done situation.

Please, Care About Your Content

As a consumer of content, I ask that you create authentic content you have a passion for. Ideally, also have some expertise. Unless, of course, you’re documenting your growth and development in something new, hoping to teach others along the way.

But don’t just try to chase the most recent hot trend, Make content you care about, because then the audience will care about it, too. And they’ll come back reliably. Some will even pay you, through things like Patreon, to help you create more. I believe that’s the right answer to long-term and enduring success.

 

Erased Vocals, Incorrect Lyrics, Music Brilliance

I stumbled up on this video on YouTube by the Professor of Rock, and learned something about one of my all-time favourite songs, California Dreamin’ by the Mommas & the Poppas. Watch the details about the history of the song, and the consequences first. Then come back and read my thoughts on the subject, because I have some opinions of my own. None of them, though, will necessary conflict or contrast with those in the video.

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Looking For Budget Music Gear?

I’ve been following a few Youtube channels related to music (some performance, some recording and production), and through Glenn Fricker at Spectre Sound Studios, I learned about a great resource for decent-quality music gear. A lot of it has also been validated by Andy Ferris over at the Guitar Geek. The source? Thomann in Germany, specifically their in-house brands Harley Benton and t.bone. I have three Harley Benton guitars (two TE’s, which is a Telecaster clone, and a J-bass), a Harley Benton 2×12, as well as a t.bone mic that’s a clone of the legendary Shure SM57.

The TE’s are brilliant, well-built, and stay in tune (at least for me). I do have an issue with fret sprout, but I have that on everything. The dry air in Calgary is brutal that way. I think they play really well. The 2×12 is equipped with Greenbacks (real ones, not clones) and it sounds really, really good. The t.bone works very well. Where they really become attractive isn’t just the quality, but the price.

I was able to get a TE, the 2×12, and the t.bone for less than the price of a single Marshall 2×12 with who-knows what speakers here in Canada. I have a real Fender Tele (and love it). But, for the price I paid, I could almost buy one of every TE single-coil configuration from Harley Benton. The total price included the Euro to Canadian Dollar exchange rate, paying for the faster UPS shipping, and the customs duties and taxes.

One thing to keep in mind: all their amps are meant for use in the EU and UK, so some may need adapters to work in North America. You’ve been warned on that one.

On Aging

a man in a uniform with very short thinning white hair and a white beard

A Mastodon writing prompt story. These are science fiction short stories (usually 480 characters or less), based on an image generated by EW Doc Parris using MidJourney.

The stories are originally posted on Mastodon via my personal account.

Originally published June 7, 2023.

Mining in space is hard. It takes years off your life. You age differently. Sure, everything floats around, and tons of rock can be easier to move. But momentum is momentum, and mass is still mass. Too many friends have been crushed because of a misdirected load.

Bad food. Bad air. Too much radiation exposure. Physical breakdown because of lack of gravity. Still, I look pretty good for a 35-year old miner.

Unexpected Consequences

A steampunk mechanical bee

A Mastodon writing prompt story. These are science fiction short stories (usually 480 characters or less), based on an image generated by EW Doc Parris using MidJourney.

The stories are originally posted on Mastodon via my personal account.

Originally published June 8, 2023.

They thought the idea of an ‘artificial bee’, the NewBees, might help deal with bee die-off. And for a time, it worked. We didn’t get honey, honeycomb, or bee’s wax, but pollination continued, easily the primary goal.

But then, people noticed the NewBees were getting bigger. And more sophisticated. Apparently, the designers hadn’t noticed they included some of the replication code from another project. The NewBees decided to ‘upgrade’, and grow the population. Uh oh.

From Trash To Home

a patch of floating garbage with dwellings on it

A Mastodon writing prompt story. These are science fiction short stories (usually 480 characters or less), based on an image generated by EW Doc Parris using MidJourney.

The stories are originally posted on Mastodon via my personal account.

Originally published June 9, 2023.

The garbage patch had been growing for decades and decades. As it grew, it also gained solidity, stability. It also began to extend deeper, creating it’s own anchor of sorts, damping out extreme motion.

A few intrepid thrill-seekers arrived, and explored. They found they could walk on the surface. Plants had begun to take root.

Finally the settlers arrived. Displaced from their now-flooded homes, they took up a new residence. Amazon 2-day shipping starts next week.

The End Is Near

A Mastodon writing prompt story. These are science fiction short stories (usually 480 characters or less), based on an image generated by Wyatt H Knott using DreamAI.

The stories are originally posted on Mastodon via my personal account.

Originally published June 9, 2023.

Our orbit is decaying fast, and they send two tugs to help correct it? Just two?

“Um, Control, Cargo 27.”

“Go ahead 27.”

“You know we’re projected to hit the capital, right?”

“Affirm.”

“Then you might want to send a few more tugs.”

“Negative. That’s all we have. We’re not saving the ship. We’re buying time to abandon it. We can redirect to The Trench, safest place to deploy it now.”

“Copy.”

I sigh, and hit the big red button. Alarms began to echo, the crew began to stir….

Strange Communications

a steampunk machine that looks like a strange typewriter

A Mastodon writing prompt story. These are science fiction short stories (usually 480 characters or less), based on an image generated by EW Doc Parris using MidJourney.

The stories are originally posted on Mastodon via my personal account.

Originally published June 9, 2023.

I stared at it, unsure what to do next. It looked like it was for transmitting text. But the keys had symbols I didn’t recognize. And it wasn’t clear what it would communicate with.

“Do we know the symbols?”

“No language we know of.”

“What about comms?”

“It radiates faint EM as you type.”

“How old is it? The design looks old, but the parts look new.”

My friend paused. “Near as we can tell, it’s at least 75,000 years old.”

“Dare I ask where we found it?” He shook his head.